Hammer I am
1:48 Sun Oct 24
Re: Alec Baldwin
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daveyg
assumed it was a man, doesn't really change anything I wrote though does it, not sure what you're getting at
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Mickey Rat
1:27 Sun Oct 24
Re: Alec Baldwin
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Yanks have a poor track record on gun safety, they all think they're experts because they can buy them at costco, my Dad was in the Royal Navy for 6 years in the war and reckoned they wer enearly as worried when yank planes flew over as Jerries due to the number of "friendly fire" incidents!
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daveyg
12:54 Sun Oct 24
Re: Alec Baldwin
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Hammer I am
It's a woman
from the BBC
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The BBC has obtained a document showing which crew members were listed as scheduled to be on set that day.
It names a head armourer, the crew member responsible for checking firearms. Hannah Gutierrez Reed is in her twenties and had recently worked in this role for the first time, on the movie The Old Way.
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Good job you're not the Judge and Jury
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Dandy Lyon
9:29 Sat Oct 23
Re: Alec Baldwin
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“The camera was the character he was aiming it at”
Probably shot it for out acting him
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lab
7:56 Sat Oct 23
Re: Alec Baldwin
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The base of the cartridge would have given him the info . He didn’t look , end of .
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Westside
7:49 Sat Oct 23
Re: Alec Baldwin
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If someone hands you a gun and tells you it isn't loaded you always check it yourself before pointing and shooting.
Yes, you should do that, but Baldwin was expecting a loaded gun, albeit with blanks. Opening the cylinder (I believe it was a revolver involved), he would have just seen the base of the cartridge, which it is extremely difficult to tell the difference between a blank and live round. He would have had to empty the rounds out of the cylinder, inspect them, then re load them.
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lab
7:40 Sat Oct 23
Re: Alec Baldwin
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nychammer 6:04
Yep that first sentence is spot on .
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Hammer I am
7:26 Sat Oct 23
Re: Alec Baldwin
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All of that is probably how to happens with a good armourer, read from one guy that works on films that they check and recheck the guns over and over, every blank is weighed individually and abnormal weights are discarded in case the primer is too much, in the rare occasions live rounds are used it would be a closed set with camera on remote. By all accounts the guy working on this film was a rank amateur and was hired because he was cheap.
As said Alec Baldwin is responsible for all this as he is the owner of the production company, whose cutting of corners has resulted in this
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zico
6:17 Sat Oct 23
Re: Alec Baldwin
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What I can't understand is "if" you have any need for a live round in a film, for shooting holes in a door for instance, why aren't certain guns categorised for live rounds and other guns for blanks use only? Why on earth would you switch between the two on the same gun?
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nychammer
6:04 Sat Oct 23
Re: Alec Baldwin
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If someone hands you a gun and tells you it isn't loaded you always check it yourself before pointing and shooting.
Liked diving - if someone hands you a scuba tank saying they just filled you always check it for yourself to see how much gas you really have and they haven't handed you an empty by mistake.
Basic Stuff really
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Hammer I am
4:04 Sat Oct 23
Re: Alec Baldwin
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Nope, we're already well aware you're an idiot.
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Swiss.
3:59 Sat Oct 23
Re: Alec Baldwin
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She was Urkrainian and a critic of Putin. Need I say more.
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Hammer I am
3:45 Sat Oct 23
Re: Alec Baldwin
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What's the relevance to her growing up on a Soviet base? Are you seriously suggesting this was intentional and was some sort of spy shit? what an incredibly weird theory.
Worth noting that Baldwin actually owns the production company so he is responsible for this
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Kaiser Zoso
3:29 Sat Oct 23
Re: Alec Baldwin
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spoon feed the ignoramus
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Far Cough
3:28 Sat Oct 23
Re: Alec Baldwin
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The camera was the character he was aiming it at
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Swiss.
2:48 Sat Oct 23
Re: Alec Baldwin
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Alfs
Are you taking abiut Jon-Erik Hexum in Cover Up? good series that.That was also a blank.
In this case they are saying now it was live ammo. Wtf was he aiming at the cinemotographer?
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plankton
2:48 Sat Oct 23
Re: Alec Baldwin
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Westside 3:42 Fri Oct 22
Re: Alec Baldwin
Obviously the problems start when you need a "bang" and blanks, live rounds, projectiles, get mixed up.
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Which begs the question, if this gun is on a film set, why on earth was there a live round of any sort even on the set, or anywhere near it? Surely you don't bring such a firearm to a film set with the thought that you'd chuck a live round or two in the box, "just in case"?
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Vexed
12:23 Sat Oct 23
Re: Alec Baldwin
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Alfs 1:20 Sat Oct 23
Due South?
Dont remember any of the actors pegging it though.
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Vexed
12:22 Sat Oct 23
Re: Alec Baldwin
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MaryMillingtonsGhost 11:53 Sat Oct 23
You know what, I reckon he knew that already.
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zico
12:15 Sat Oct 23
Re: Alec Baldwin
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Was watching two film firearm experts last night discussing the safety protocols on set and if all protocols had been followed this wouldn't have happened. Even when shooting in the direction of another you never aim straight at another or camera, and if you need the shot (pardon the pun) it's therefore done remotely so no one is directly behind the camera. I suspect (Allegedly) it's down to time schedule, budgetary issues that corners were possibly cut. Apparently many people, including producer and actor, can/should check the gun, and in this case Baldwin was unfortunately both.
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